How to glue metal to metal?

[Sybilla]

Good morning,

I try to find a solution to a problem that concerns me since ever I have bought my second hand ute. 
A second hand lockable tray was installed that can’t get locked. So the back of my ute is open and accessible always. 
That’s not what I paid for… and I am carrying expensive equipment with me most times.

Instead of investing in another tray I had a specialised automotive locksmith look at it and he came up with a solution that seems undoable now. He initially said that I should drill a hole into the Utes back and attach an eye bolt; which I did. I then went and bought a carabiner with attached Velcro to attach to either side of both bolts. Great idea initially, 

and now comes the ‘but’ 

how am I supposed to screw the washer and nut to the eye bold through and under the plastic if I can’t reach in between the plastic and the metal?  There’s no hole on the other end as it’s the tailboard of the vehicle; which is closed.

I can’t weld and don’t know anyone who does.

Is there any glue that’s strong enough for me to glue it on so that I can screw in the eye bold from the top?

 

[JacobZ]

Hi @Sybilla,

Can I just confirm that the tonneau cover is supposed to be lockable independently of the tail gate?

It seems to me like there are two things that should be lockable and I'm a little confused as to which one is failing. The suggestion of installing an eye bolt makes me believe the issue is the tail gate, not the tonneau cover.

Can you confirm whether this is correct or not?

Apologies that I don't have a solution yet, but please hang in there, I really do want to find a solution for you.

Jacob

[Sybilla]

 

 

 

Hi @JacobZ, 

I’m only guessing here, but I assume that you mean the top tray when you’re saying tonneau cover? (Apologies, I’ve never heard that word before and my translator comes with inconclusive results)

The back aka tailgate was never lockable; remember when I mentioned that the ute originally had a tarp cover!? 

The new top / movable tray has a latch and the guy who has installed it added a closing latch to the tailgate (remember the picture with those 6 holes in the plastic cover?!). Supposedly to make it lockable; which it never was - right from the start.

Hope this clears up any confusion.

Keep asking away if not. 

I added some more pictures of a row of little round pins to where the tarp initially was attached to.

No stress. I’m just thankful for you’re support and trying to help me!

[Noyade]

Hi @Sybilla 

I must admit to not fully understanding the problem @Sybilla  - but regards the eyebolt attachment - what thread/diameter is it?

I'm just assuming behind the plastic (which can be removed?) the tailgate is double-hulled?

So may I suggest another case for the nut rivet? 😁

Maybe two that hold a plate with a tapped thread? Or a nut behind it?

The holes through metal are already there?

Just Sunday afternoon thoughts.

This is metal seen it the top corner? Diameter?

[Dave-1]

Afternoon @Sybilla 

I think when I look at the rear of the tailgate and see the lock  on the tray dioor, I was presuming that that button/key is a lock to keep the tailgait closed. I think thats where we are confused. And that there is a seperate lock for the cover to the tray itself.?

On to the eyebolt part tho. Can that hard plastic cover be removed from the rear of the tailgate? If it can it will expose the metal and hopefully you will be able to see either tie down/connection points or a hollow wafer type deal. (crossing fingers here as I am only presuming) I have just been looking online for a picture of what the bare metal of an LDV tailgate looks like and cant find any. There should be some screw points on the rear of the tailgate that will show up when the plastic is removed. That way you can go down the track of an eyebolt screw to one of these points. I did come across a bunch of differant locking mechanisims that could be fitted as well.

Hoping there are some "popoff" points for that hard plastic covering the inside rear of the tailgate.

Dave

So with the eyebolt and strap I am presuming a padlock or something solid will go through the eyebolt to the top cover to secure it?

[Noyade]

So the plastic is not part of the tailgate @Dave-1 ?

[Dave-1]

Afternoo @Noyade 

I am thinking its just a protective cover and to make it loook nicer. Your sketch works showing what I was meaning I havnt see that model tailgate in its nakedness before, but other trays I have come across generally have the ability for fastening points. 

Dave

[Sybilla]

@Noyade yes it is; but only attached via hidden screws. However I removed the caps for faster access to the metal underneath.

 

 

see below picture 

[Noyade]

Ok - thanks Dave. I was wondering if I should take my nut rivets and depart. 😁.

I have a twin-layered Holden Rodeo tailgate where it would work - just not sure what's to happen with the eyebolt @Sybilla?

[Sybilla]

Afternoon @Dave-1 

It’s for a nicer look but also for people like me who are short. Every single time I need to go up I have to get one knee up at least. The feeling of plastic on human muscles and flesh is much nicer than straight up metal! 

[Noyade]

Sorry @Sybilla our posts crossed.

So once removed we can use the inner part of the tailgate metal?