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I’m looking to build a 600mm garden wall to keep a raised garden bed beck back off the side of the house (previous owners though buried weatherboards was a good idea…) I initially had questions about the wall itself, but in thinking it over last night I also have some concerns about the exposed foundations.
Wall will be L shaped, 3m X 1.8m. I also had to dig out 2 trees that were in the bed and too close to the house. I've dug the trench but in doing so to get all the roots out I went about 100mm deeper, thinking it would be good to get more organics away. However I now have 2 concerns.
I'm not sure if either of these will create 'load' on the wall, or if they might now settle because I've dug away some of the dirt that was next to them. My plan was to fill in about 10cm of dirt (fairly sandy), compact with a plate compacter, then put in 10cm of road base, compact that, then put in the concrete footing, remove the form work and fill the gap around where the form was with the either dirt or left over roadbase.
I then plan to build the wall (questions on that below) and fill on the house side with dirt up to the ground level of the underhouse. (considered doing about 10cm of blue metal on the 'house side' but actually think dirt is better since it'll encourage water to spread rather than creating an area for it to pool by the footing. Garden side I was going to put some blue metal to encourage drainage but no actual agpipe or anything since it should drain fairly freely out the bottom of the bed?
As for the wall itself, the house is weatherboard from the 1920s and has lots of brick around other gardens and paths, so could do a 7-8course English bond brick wall on a concrete footer, on top of compacted road base. However, I'm wondering if it would be better to do something more like 2 courses of concrete retaining wall blocks (like adbri Versawall) on compacted road base (seems concrete footing is optional), then capped with a header row of bricks so the unburied part matches.
A few photos uploaded, happy to share more if helpful. Keen to learn and try figure this out, but if you feel this is risking causing a bigger issue please shout and let me know who I should get in to take it over.
Thank you all, I've read so many helpful threads here!
@Dave-1 I Love it. Will have to try out other cereals though, been too long since I had cornflakes!
Hi @matt234,
As @Dave-1 has said, you should leave the forms open-ended and butt them up against the existing foundation.
There might be a small amount of seepage, but it would be extremely minor. Just make sure to brace the forms very well where you leave them open-ended, otherwise the weight of the concrete can push them out, meaning you'll have a lot of seepage.
A stake no more than 50mm from the open end of the form would do this well.
Let me know if you have any further questions.
Jacob
Thanks @JacobZ, I went in to get supplies today and they didn’t have the timber I was planning to get. The guy said I could use plinth board instead of structural which was the other stocked option, so I got 150x25 plinth and some extra stakes to support the longer spans. But looking at it now I’m just sure it’s going to get stuck to the concrete because it’s so rough. Am I right to be wary or will rough boards work okay?
Evening @matt234
I had the same concerns when I was hunting for something for my formwork. I ended up using some melamime. It worked well. Tho my job was smaller then yours.
Dave
Hi @matt234,
I completely understand your concern, but I don't think it's going to cause too much issue as long as you let the concrete set sufficiently before removing the forms.
If you were looking to pour an appearance-grade concrete slab, where the sides of the slab are visible, you wouldn't use anything too rough, but in your case, it shouldn't matter.
Large commercial concrete pours use shuttering oil to create a barrier between the formwork and the concrete. Think of buttering a cake tin as an example. Oiling your formwork with some vegetable oil will allow you to remove the formwork much more easily.
Let me know what you think.
Jacob
Oh cool. I might try oil on some of it and not others as a bit of a test and learn. Thanks for the tip
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