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How to build a low retaining wall?

matt234
Growing in Experience

How to build a low retaining wall?

I’m looking to build a 600mm garden wall to keep a raised garden bed beck back off the side of the house (previous owners though buried weatherboards was a good idea…) I initially had questions about the wall itself, but in thinking it over last night I also have some concerns about the exposed foundations. 

 

Wall will be L shaped, 3m X 1.8m. I also had to dig out 2 trees that were in the bed and too close to the house. I've dug the trench but in doing so to get all the roots out I went about 100mm deeper, thinking it would be good to get more organics away. However I now have 2 concerns. 

  • 1. the trench actually goes lower than the concrete footing of the patio brick wall (about 15cm) and on the other end a small 3-4 course garden edge wall (under the footing by more than like 20-25cm), and
  • 2. I have exposed the concrete around the corner stump for the house. I haven't tried to dig under it or anything and I assume/hope it goes much deeper than 30cm.

I'm not sure if either of these will create 'load' on the wall, or if they might now settle because I've dug away some of the dirt that was next to them. My plan was to fill in about 10cm of dirt (fairly sandy), compact with a plate compacter, then put in 10cm of road base, compact that, then put in the concrete footing, remove the form work and fill the gap around where the form was with the either dirt or left over roadbase. 

I then plan to build the wall (questions on that below) and fill on the house side with dirt up to the ground level of the underhouse. (considered doing about 10cm of blue metal on the 'house side' but actually think dirt is better since it'll encourage water to spread rather than creating an area for it to pool by the footing. Garden side I was going to put some blue metal to encourage drainage but no actual agpipe or anything since it should drain fairly freely out the bottom of the bed? 

 

As for the wall itself, the house is weatherboard from the 1920s and has lots of brick around other gardens and paths, so could do a 7-8course English bond brick wall on a concrete footer, on top of compacted road base. However, I'm wondering if it would be better to do something more like 2 courses of concrete retaining wall blocks (like adbri Versawall) on compacted road base (seems concrete footing is optional), then capped with a header row of bricks so the unburied part matches.

 

  • 3. Any advice on which of brick or concrete blocks is more suitable or if it doesn't matter? It won't be very visible so aesthetics less important (I've not laid bricks before but was excited to learn)
  • 4. Do I even need the roadbase? I  see the other footings were just on the fairly sandy soil. I know I would have to compact it if I put it back in, and maybe now since I've dug it out the roadbase would be worth doing?
  • 5. If I do a concrete footer this size (500mm wide, 3m long, then 1.7m long on the other side), does it need reo, mesh and/or contraction joints? Do I need vertical reo into the wall or can I just mortar them? The bricks I would use are solid (was planning to use reclaimed to match since not much price difference). I read conflicting things about if these are optional or required. 
  • 6. Should I fill in on the house side with dirt or do I need to use something else? I can hand tamp that but feels like if it needs any real support for that house stump on the corner then me tamping isn't going to do much of anything
  • 7. Assuming I can build close to the existing brick walls, how do I get around the bits of concrete from the old footing that stick out? Should I cut bricks to go around that? Do I leave an air gap? Do I just fill it with a bit more mortar? Do I need to drill a reo into each end (I'd personally prefer them not connected probably, esp the patio as I don't want to compromise that wall at all and no clue how old/brittle it is. 

A few photos uploaded, happy to share more if helpful. Keen to learn and try figure this out, but if you feel this is risking causing a bigger issue please shout and let me know who I should get in to take it over. 

 

Thank you all, I've read so many helpful threads here! 

 

IMG_1968.jpgPatio end wall (sorry not sure why it rotated on upload), trench is ~150mm deeper than footingPatio end wall (sorry not sure why it rotated on upload), trench is ~150mm deeper than footing

 

matt234
Growing in Experience

Re: How to build a low retaining wall?

@Dave-1 I Love it. Will have to try out other cereals though, been too long since I had cornflakes! 

JacobZ
Bunnings Team Member
Bunnings Team Member

Re: How to build a low retaining wall?

Hi @matt234,

 

As @Dave-1 has said, you should leave the forms open-ended and butt them up against the existing foundation. 

 

There might be a small amount of seepage, but it would be extremely minor. Just make sure to brace the forms very well where you leave them open-ended, otherwise the weight of the concrete can push them out, meaning you'll have a lot of seepage.

 

A stake no more than 50mm from the open end of the form would do this well.

 

Let me know if you have any further questions.

 

Jacob

 

matt234
Growing in Experience

Re: How to build a low retaining wall?

Thanks @JacobZ, I went in to get supplies today and they didn’t have the timber I was planning to get. The guy said I could use plinth board instead of structural which was the other stocked option, so I got 150x25 plinth and some extra stakes to support the longer spans. But looking at it now I’m just sure it’s going to get stuck to the concrete because it’s so rough. Am I right to be wary or will rough boards work okay? 

Dave-1
Community Megastar

Re: How to build a low retaining wall?

Evening @matt234 

I had the same concerns when I was hunting for something for my formwork. I ended up using some melamime. It worked well. Tho my job was smaller then yours.

 

Dave

JacobZ
Bunnings Team Member
Bunnings Team Member

Re: How to build a low retaining wall?

Hi @matt234,

 

I completely understand your concern, but I don't think it's going to cause too much issue as long as you let the concrete set sufficiently before removing the forms. 

 

If you were looking to pour an appearance-grade concrete slab, where the sides of the slab are visible, you wouldn't use anything too rough, but in your case, it shouldn't matter.

 

Large commercial concrete pours use shuttering oil to create a barrier between the formwork and the concrete. Think of buttering a cake tin as an example. Oiling your formwork with some vegetable oil will allow you to remove the formwork much more easily.

 

Let me know what you think.

 

Jacob

 

matt234
Growing in Experience

Re: How to build a low retaining wall?

Oh cool. I might try oil on some of it and not others as a bit of a test and learn. Thanks for the tip 

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