Can you have speaker cable and CAT6 cable ending in the same spot?

[Samara1]

Is it OK to have both Speaker cable and Camera CAT6 cable ends in same spot like this ?

planning to keep my NVR (right side) and speaker amplifier (left side) in different shelf in the same cabin

[Jewelleryrescue]

Hi @Samara1 

Cat 6 cable is fully shielded  and will not be effected by speaker wires or anything else sort of a massive solar flare, and the same is true the cat 6 will not cause hum etc on speaker wires.

Just a tip  label your camera wires for ease of servicing them in future. 

Make sure the cat 6 cables  long enough to allow attached unit to come out of the cabinet for servicing adding extra cameras etc later.

[EricL]

Hello @Samara1 

That's excellent advice coming from @Jewelleryrescue. In regards to cable tags, I suggest looking at the Click Writeable Cord Identifiers as a convenient way of identifying the cables.

If you have any other questions we can help with, please let us know.

Eric

[R4addZ]

Hi @Samara1 

Some pretty wrong advice being given here. The cabling regulations state (I'm paraphrasing here as the regs are much longer winded in the current iteration) "fixed or concealed cabling SHALL NOT terminate on a plug" you have to fit a socket plate at least in order to comply with the law these are then patched to the PVR with patch cords. You can fit at most 6 outlets on a plate, so you need to divert the speaker cables to another outlet location. Oh and most cat 6 is UTP which means Unscreened twisted pair Screened is only used in special applications  (STP) due to increased cost. the outlets are the ones usually tagged. Oh and if a professional did this get them back to fix it and have the regs handy as they should know this!

For the regulations (long read) see here.....

https://www.acma.gov.au/australian-cabling-standards

S009 is the technical standard

The relevant section is 5.9   Plug-terminated cabling

[JacobZ]

Hi @Samara1,

As @R4addZ, who is a licensed cabler has said, there are strict standards in place for cabling, meaning advice on things of this nature should be given by professionals.

There is a second hole in the right side of the cabinet, which has likely been put there to accommodate the different wires and different plates. I think it's important to note that this is not a finished job.  

There is no problem having unattached cables touching each other while waiting for fitoff, but if this was the state of a finished job, you should definitely be getting them back to fix their work as R4addz has said.

Jacob

[Jewelleryrescue · Accepted solution]

Sorry   Guys I am  The electronics  professional  6 year training coarse things trained properly in the 80s   @JacobZ  extra 2 years as electrical course part time. Grand father taught my valves at age 14 now lol/

I am a fully  quailfied electronics techo of over 40 years  experiance and have  work with high frequency transmission signals at Australian National University on equipment that you would not believe that now is used in space telescopes measure the distant spectrums of stars and galaxies where they cant run a cable yet. 

Vs  The current  Open Cabler Registration course  Duration  5 days. 

I am technically up todate and beyond   i would like to point out a product bunning sells  that  I used for cat 6A video cables so wifi POE cameras  dont slow  my wifi bandwidth.  From  Mesh Network modem a direct cable to  PCs  and cameras  it works fantastic. 

DETA White Brush Wall Cover Plate in 4430713

Made for pre made cables through the wall just as an example of changing standards and times. Better lock  bunnings up for not only selling  wall plates.

Wall plates are nearly obsolete in to the future dramatically slow data at every connection adds shielding issues and slows  wave propegation and sends  signal refections back up the  line cat  8 cables must have a signal end to end connection points and metal sheilded plugs not the plastic rj45.

But 4G   and 5G  and beyond will be the real way of the future cable guys on the endangered species list.

I choose not to get into a debate and multiple proofs here as it isnt helping anyone. Just some facts.

Even  cat 5 and  5e will operate  with no problems in same location. as  @Samara1  is using but camera date rates increasing weekly so put the highest  sheilded standard you can afford.  @Samara1  didnt specify UPT this is  @R4addZ  assumption but sheilding increases cable performance the lack of it wont be measurable out side of a science lab.   .  Technology always leads the rule changes catch up periodically is more af a guidle line so cabling companies tow the line pardon the pun.

Samara will never have any problems with there setup ever but into the future they may need (like all of us) higher standard wiring to support higher bandwidths.   

[R4addZ]

Hi @Jewelleryrescue

If it's credentials we are looking for I have over 50 years experience in customer premises equipment (I trained originally in the 70s but have trained in this field continuously as it has developed) with a full apprenticeship with British Telecom and service with what is currently Telstra. I actually work in the field we are discussing but it isn't my credentials that matter, nor yours for that matter! The regulations I linked to are the only thing that matter.

Who in their right mind would use Cat7 or Cat8 cable for cctv connections have you looked at the prices for components for these networks? And what resolution will need such networks 4K cctv? not really sensible and with the lengths of cable runs for this kind of installation you could even do that with Cat6! Also shielding does not improve performance it simply protects you from such things as alien cross talk and other degrading interference which can also be dealt with by informed installation practices Have you truly considered the difference in cost between sheilded and unsheilded components as no one in their right mind would suggest this for a cctv install.

As for wall plates, they are required by law! how can you say they are nearly obsolete? fixed or concealed cabling is not allowed to terminate on a plug except under certain circumstances such as it not being accessible by the end user so sorry but you are totally out of order here!

Feel free to express an opinion but don't question the law when advising people what they can or can't do!