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Metal frame loose and not attached firmly with shower glass door

ivanptr
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Metal frame loose and not attached firmly with shower glass door

Hi @EricL and @MitchellMc 

 

Our shower glass door side edge has a "plastic cover/gasket", it gets a bit loose , also affecting the metal frame that cant attach to the glass door firmly

 

How should we tackle this?

Do we need some glue/ silicone :

1) to adhere the plastic cover to the glass door

 

2) second coat: adhere the plastic cover to the metal frame?

 

Please see the photo:

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Love to hear your thought. Just found another issue left by previous occupants.

 

Really want to get it fixed.

 

Thank you so much for any advice.

 

Re: Metal frame loose and not attached firmly with shower glass door

Hi @ivanptr , just a quick chime in... I agree with the advice & thoughts of @MitchellMc @Noyade & @JDE .

Liquid nails is only good for non-flexing joints. The glass in the door will naturally flex during normal use, so the frame will need be able to flex also, therefore the recommendations of screwing or pop rivetting the corner connection would be the safest options.

MitchellMc
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Re: Metal frame loose and not attached firmly with shower glass door

@ivanptr,

 

Just musing further and never willing to pass up an opportunity for a good rendering, I suspect the top rail likely needs to be removed first, and the gasket/panel put back into position. The top rail would then be pushed back down into position to lock everything in place. Perhaps the black fitting is just so worn now that it won't clip into position and keeps pulling back out. Does it seem worn at all? If so, screw it into place, but mind the glass panel.

 

Mitchell

 

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Re: Metal frame loose and not attached firmly with shower glass door

@JDE  @Noyade @TedBear MitchellMc

Feel touched and so thankful for all the advice. Really appreciate it.

 

We have been wrapping our heads around this for a long time. 

Now we realize the issue is that the corner does not have enough space for the metal edge.

 

MitchellMc, allow us to ask a beginner level question (havent done this before..!)

 

This is the tools we have:

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Our plan :

1) Use pencil to mark the point to ensure the screw can get through both the metal and black fitting, without missing the fitting.

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2. Open a hole using the titanium drill bits (Starting with the smallest one)

 

3. Screw through the hole.
But what kind of screw should we get from Bunnings for this kind of bathroom shower door repair..?

 

Any suggestion?

 

4. How do we prevent the screw from falling off over time?

 

Or should use this combo instead of Screw : Bolt + Loctite Threadlocker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pn3C5QVcu0

 

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Thank you guys again for all the great advice.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MitchellMc
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Re: Metal frame loose and not attached firmly with shower glass door

Hi @ivanptr

 

These white button head screws look like they'd do the job. Just select a length that will go through the upright post and the black insert, but that isn't so long that it penetrates the other side. Perhaps something like the Zenith 8G x 20mm White Button Head Screw or Zenith 8G x 30mm White Button Head Screw. Alternatively, using a stainless steel screw would provide the best anti-rust properties. You'll need to paint their head white to blend in, though.

 

I'd suggest marking an appropriate location on the upright post, returning the frame fully to the correct position (take note of my rendering above if the black fitting is stubborn) and then drilling through both the post and black insert simultaneously. Use the screw to hold the frame in position.

 

The screw shouldn't fall out over time, but you could use a Pinnacle M3 x 50mm Stainless Steel Hex Head Bolt And Nut. With the bolt, you'd drill through the entire post and fix the nut on the rear side. Loctite isn't essential but could assist with locking the nut in position.

 

Mitchell

 

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Re: Metal frame loose and not attached firmly with shower glass door

"never willing to pass up an opportunity for a good rendering"

 

Keep'em coming - they're excellent!  👍

Re: Metal frame loose and not attached firmly with shower glass door

Hi @MitchellMc ,

 

Not too sure if we are capable of returning the frame to correct position but we will definitely give it a try ..!

 

Found a video we took last time :

https://youtube.com/shorts/9j4HzPmGxJU?feature=share

 

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On another note, if our memory serves us right, we couldnt find the black insert at the bottom last time we visited the property

 

If this is the case ,  that means we could only drill one bolt at the top corner to secure the frame, instead of two..!

 

Do you think we could use hybrid approach?

 

One bolt + A few drops of gorilla super glue gel near the bottom 

 

Or it will be a bad idea? 

 

 

 

 

MitchellMc
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Re: Metal frame loose and not attached firmly with shower glass door

Hi @ivanptr,

 

I apologise. I've drawn those renderings as if it was the corner of the shower instead of the trim on the door. However, the same principle applies. You need to fix the black inserts back in.

 

If there is no black insert at the bottom, what would you bolt through? Does the horizontal piece insert into the side trim?

 

Mitchell

 

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Re: Metal frame loose and not attached firmly with shower glass door

"However, the same principle applies."

 

Agreed Mitchell. Those 'black connectors' are what holds the frame together.

I know little about shower glass - tempered? Will it shatter into a thousand pieces if struck with a high speed drill?

 

"we couldnt find the black insert at the bottom last time we visited the property"

 

The story gets worse Ivan! :unhappy:

Next visit - if it were my property - photograph or remove the remaining 'black connector' and show it to a shower-screen specialist - they may have replacements or at least advise you about possible repair.

MitchellMc
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Re: Metal frame loose and not attached firmly with shower glass door

"Will it shatter into a thousand pieces if struck with a high speed drill?" Highly likely, @Noyade. Great care should be taken to avoid it.

 

Mitchell

 

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Re: Metal frame loose and not attached firmly with shower glass door

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Just want to update you guys :

It turned out "the remark that frame was very loose" by the manager was not true, and the handyman really did the thing you guys mentioned, he put a screw in at the top corner. Regretfully, the bottom black insert was missing so he couldnt put a second screw. BUT*, with the previous  Moroday 18mm x 30m Clear Double Sided Hi-Tack Acrylic Tape I used last time, the frame is now 95% solid even without the second screw at the bottom corner. 

Only sticky Acrylic Tape  = 70% solid

Sticky Acrylic Tape + One screw = 95% 

Basically this solved the problem and we no longer need to be concerned about safety hazard in case of the frame falling off.

 

Love you guys for sharing so much knowledge about shower door.

 

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