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Can timber wedges make the shower screed prone to cracking?

charlie0123
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Can timber wedges make the shower screed prone to cracking?

I was reading and watching Bunnings' "How to screed a shower base" and have a question here:Can the use of timber wedges make the shower screed prone to cracking along the wedge lines? It's because the wedges are removed and the gaps are filled after the screed is dry (12 hours later), and the new screed fill may not attach to the existing screed well.

 

https://www.bunnings.com.au/diy-advice/home-improvement/baths-showers-toilets/how-to-screed-a-shower...

 

EricL
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Re: Can the use of timber wedges make the shower screed prone to cracking?

Hello @charlie0123 

 

If you are worried about the screed not bonding together you can use the Lanko 5L 124 Ultraprime Primer to prime the surface of the first batch of screed. Once the primer cures you can then apply the remainder of the screed. If the drying process is well monitored and the screed is misted properly then it will cure with no visible cracks on the surface. The only reason you would get cracks in the screed is if the drying process was accelerated. Once the screed cures the waterproofing membrane will cover the surface and will prevent water from reaching the screed.

 

If you have any other questions we can help with, please let us know.

 

Eric

 

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charlie0123
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Re: Can the use of timber wedges make the shower screed prone to cracking?

Thanks, Eric.

If cracks do occur, should anything be done? Waterproofing membrane may or may not cover the cracks (if the membrane is under the screed).

EricL
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Re: Can the use of timber wedges make the shower screed prone to cracking?

Hello @charlie0123 

 

If cracks do occur, they can be filled with Earl's 1kg Concremate Expanding Cement before the waterproofing membrane is applied. 

 

Eric

 

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charlie0123
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Re: Can the use of timber wedges make the shower screed prone to cracking?

Thanks, Eric.

I did more reading online last night, saw some people use some sort of low viscus repair solution for concrete hairline cracks,Does Bunnings have such products?

 

also noticed some people recommende Epoxy (I'm not sure two parts Epoxy glue at Bunnings is any good for this purpose).

 

I also saw videos using liquid waterproof membrane to seal concrete cracks in order to stop leaking. I am not sure I can do the same way when shower screed has some hairline cracks - leaving the hairline cracks alone because it will be covered by waterproof membrane later.

 

Thanks again for help.

 

 

Re: Can the use of timber wedges make the shower screed prone to cracking?

Hi @charlie0123

 

Just to clarify, have you already laid a shower screed that has cracked, and you’re looking for repair options, or are you preparing in case cracking occurs? If your screed is cracked, could you share some images? This will help our members provide more tailored advice based on what you're dealing with.

 

If you're looking for an easy-to-use crack filler, I recommend the Gripset Betta 1L Concrete Crack Filler. It’s simple to apply—just squeeze it directly into the crack.

 

When applying the screed, the membrane should be installed underneath first. This way, even if fine cracks develop, the membrane will redirect water to the drain, preventing further issues.

 

As for the timber wedges, they should be removed immediately after applying the screed. At this stage, the screed is still wet, which ensures a strong bond when you fill the gaps. Using the wedges won’t cause cracking. However, if the screed has dried before you remove the wedges, this could result in a poor bond between the old screed and the new one. The key is to complete the process while the screed is still wet—don’t wait for it to dry before filling the wedged areas.

 

Feel free to reach out if you have any further questions.

 

Mitchell 

 

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charlie0123
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Re: Can the use of timber wedges make the shower screed prone to cracking?

Hi, Eric,

Based on your reply above, it makes sense. The wedges should be removed and the gaps be filled before the screed is dry (not after). The information in Bunnings' "How to screed a shower base" is wrong as I suspected:

"Once the screed is dry, after about 12 hours, put your rags back into the drain. Use a brush to sweep up all the loose, dry bits of screed. Any areas where your screed is uneven you can use a paint scraper to make it even. Now use the paint scraper to fill all of the gaps (created by the removal of the wedges) with a bit more screed. Avoid overfilling the gaps as this will cause high spots when the screed dries. Once you have filled the gaps and made it level with the scraper, sweep off the excess screed and pull the rags out of the drain."

   https://www.bunnings.com.au/diy-advice/home-improvement/baths-showers-toilets/how-to-screed-a-shower...

 

I have some very fine concrete hairline cracks (possibly 0.5mm) elsewhere (possibly due to shrink), so I tried to figure out how to fix them. I don't think cement is the best solution because it is too thick to fill the cracks.

Re: Can the use of timber wedges make the shower screed prone to cracking?

Hi @charlie0123,

 

I apologise. I've just rewatched that section and they do say to wait for the screed to dry before filling the gaps. I wouldn't say that's wrong; there is always more than one way to go about a project. I do see the merits in waiting for it to dry as it's firmer, but since you've already established your fall, I see no reason why you can't fill the gaps before it cures.

 

Even if you wait for it to dry, I don't think you will have an issue with cracking. Cracking typically occurs in a joint where two larger areas of solid material come together and which can move independently of each other. It's this movement and flex that cause cracks. In this process, you're just filling voids in a substrate that is fixed with no movement.

 

Mitchell

 

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